Day 109: Radio Panel on the MBTI Craze
In a radio studio, host Lee Jaehoon (A) talks about the MBTI craze with psychology professor Han Seoyoung (B), HR manager Choi Dongwook (C) and office worker Park Jiwoo (D).
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Dialogue
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A ์ฒญ์ทจ์ ์ฌ๋ฌ๋ถ, ์๋ ํ์ญ๋๊น. ์์ฆ์ ์ฒ์ ๋ง๋๋ฉด "MBTI๊ฐ ๋ญ์์?"๋ถํฐ ๋ฌป๋๋ค๊ณ ํฉ๋๋ค. ํ์์ ๊ต์๋, ์ด ์ฑ๊ฒฉ ์ ํ ๊ฒ์ฌ, ๋ฏฟ์ ๋งํฉ๋๊น?
Cheongchwija yeoreobun, annyeonghasimnikka. Yojeumeun cheoeum mannamyeon "MBTIga mwoyeyo?"buteo munneundago hamnida. Hanseoyeong gyosunim, i seonggyeok yuhyeong geomsa, mideul manhamnikka?
Hello, listeners. These days people apparently start with "What's your MBTI?" when they first meet. Professor Han, can this personality-type test be trusted?
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B ์ฌ๋ฏธ๋ก ํด ๋ณด๊ธฐ์๋ ์ข์ต๋๋ค. ํ์ง๋ง ์ฌ๋ฆฌํ์์๋ ํ๊ณ๊ฐ ๋ง์ ๊ฒ์ฌ๋ก ๋ด ๋๋ค. ๋ช ์ฃผ ๋ค์ ๋ค์ ํ๋ฉด ์ ํ์ด ๋ฐ๋๋ ์ฌ๋๋ ๋ง๊ฑฐ๋ ์.
Jaemiro hae bogieneun joseumnida. Hajiman simnihageseoneun hangyega maneun geomsaro bomnida. Myeot ju dwie dasi hamyeon yuhyeongi bakkwineun saramdo mankeodeunyo.
It's fine to take for fun. But in psychology it's seen as a test with a lot of limitations. Plenty of people get a different type when they retake it a few weeks later.
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A ์ต๋์ฑ ํ์ฅ๋, ์ฑ์ฉ ๊ณผ์ ์์ MBTI๋ฅผ ๋ฌป๋ ํ์ฌ๋ ์๋ค๊ณ ๋ค์์ต๋๋ค.
Choedonguk timjangnim, chaeyong gwajeongeseo MBTIreul munneun hoesado itdago deureotseumnida.
Mr. Choi, I hear some companies even ask about MBTI when they're hiring.
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C ์ ํฌ๋ ๋ฌป์ง ์์ต๋๋ค๋ง, ์๊ธฐ์๊ฐ์์ ์ค์ค๋ก ์ ์ด ๋ด๋ ์ง์์๊ฐ ๊ฝค ๋ง์ต๋๋ค. ์์งํ ๊ทธ ๋ค ๊ธ์์ ๋์ด ๊ฐ๊ธด ํฉ๋๋ค.
Jeohuineun mutji anseumnidaman, jagisogaeseoe seuseuro jeogeo naeneun jiwonjaga kkwae manseumnida. Soljiki geu ne geuljae nuni gagin hamnida.
We don't ask, but quite a lot of applicants put it in their cover letters on their own. Honestly, my eyes do go to those four letters.
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B ๋ฐ๋ก ๊ทธ๊ฒ ๋ฌธ์ ์ ๋๋ค. ๋ค ๊ธ์๋ฅผ ๊ฐ์ง๊ณ ์ฌ๋์ ํ๋จํ ์ ์์ต๋๊น? ์ธํฅ์ ์ธ ์ ๋๋ ์ฌ๋๋ง๋ค ๋ค๋ฅธ๋ฐ, ๊ฒ์ฌ๋ E ์๋๋ฉด I๋ก ๋๋๋๋ค.
Baro geuge munjeimnida. Ne geuljareul gajigo sarameul pandanhal su itseumnikka? Oehyangjeogin jeongdoneun sarammada dareunde, geomsaneun E animyeon Iro nanumnida.
That's exactly the problem. Can you judge a person by four letters? How outgoing people are varies from person to person, but the test simply puts everyone down as E or I.
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C ๋ฌผ๋ก ํ๋จ ๊ธฐ์ค์ผ๋ก ์ฐ๋ฉด ์ ๋์ฃ . ๋ค๋ง ๋ฉด์ ์์ "์ ๋ INFP์์" ํ๋ฉด ๋ถ์๊ธฐ๊ฐ ๊ธ๋ฐฉ ํ๋ฆฝ๋๋ค.
Mullon pandan gijuneuro sseumyeon an doejyo. Daman myeonjeobeseo "jeodo INFPyeyo" hamyeon bunwigiga geumbang pullimnida.
Of course it shouldn't be a basis for judgement. But at an interview, if I say "I'm an INFP too," the mood relaxes right away.
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A ๋ฐ์ง์ฐ ์จ๋ ํ์ฌ์์ MBTI ์ด์ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์์ฃผ ํ์ญ๋๊น?
Park Jiu ssineun hoesaeseo MBTI iyagireul jaju hasimnikka?
Ms. Park, does MBTI come up a lot at your work?
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D ๊ฑฐ์ ๋งค์ผ ํฉ๋๋ค. ์ ๊ฐ I๋ผ๊ณ ํ๋ฉด ๋ค๋ค "๊ทธ๋์ ํ์์ ์ซ์ดํ๋๊ตฌ๋" ํ์ธ์. ์ฌ์ค ๊ทธ๋ฅ ํผ๊ณคํด์ ๋น ์ง๋ ๊ฑด๋ฐ์.
Geoui maeil hamnida. Jega Irago hamyeon dadeul "geuraeseo hoesigeul sireohaneunguna" haseyo. Sasil geunyang pigonhaeseo ppajineun geondeyo.
Almost every day. When I say I'm an I, everyone goes, "So that's why you hate team dinners." Actually, I skip them because I'm just tired.
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B ๊ทธ๊ฒ ๋ฐ๋ก ๋์ธ ํจ๊ณผ์ ๋๋ค. ํ๋ฒ ์ ํ์ด ์ ํด์ง๋ฉด ๊ทธ ์ฌ๋์ ๋ชจ๋ ํ๋์ ์ ํ์ ๋ง์ถฐ ํด์ํ๊ฒ ๋์ง์.
Geuge baro nagin hyogwaimnida. Hanbeon yuhyeongi jeonghaejimyeon geu saramui modeun haengdongeul yuhyeonge matchwo haeseokage doejiyo.
That's the labelling effect. Once someone's type is set, you end up reading everything they do in terms of that type.
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D ๊ทธ๋๋ ์ข์ ์ ๋ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์ ํฌ ํ์ฅ๋ ๋งํฌ๊ฐ ์ฐจ๊ฐ์ด ๊ฒ T๋ผ์ ๊ทธ๋ ๋ค๊ณ ์๊ฐํ๋๊น ์์ฒ๋ฅผ ๋ ๋ฐ๊ฒ ๋๊ฑฐ๋ ์.
Geuraedo joeun jeomdo itseumnida. Jeohui timjangnim maltuga chagaun ge Traseo geureotago saenggakanikka sangcheoreul deol batge dwaetgeodeunyo.
There are upsides too, though. Now that I put my manager's cold tone down to him being a T, I get hurt a lot less.
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A ์ค, ๊ทธ๋ฐ ๋ฉด๋ ์๊ตฐ์.
O, geureon myeondo itgunyo.
Oh, so there's that side to it too.
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C ๋ง์ต๋๋ค. ์๋ก ๋ค๋ฅธ ๊ฑธ ์ธ์ ํ๋ ๊ณ๊ธฐ๊ฐ ๋๋ ๊ฑฐ์ฃ .
Matseumnida. Seoro dareun geol injeonghaneun gyegiga doeneun geojyo.
Exactly. It becomes a chance to accept that we're different.
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B ๋ํ๋ฅผ ์ฌ๋ ๋ฐ๋ ๋์์ด ๋ ํ ์ง๋ง, ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์ ๋ฉ์ถฐ์ผ ํฉ๋๋ค. "๋ ์๋ ๊ทธ๋ ์์"๋ก ๋๋๋ฉด ์คํ๋ ค ์ ์ ๊ฒฌ๋ง ์์ ๋๋ค.
Daehwareul yeoneun deneun doumi doel tejiman, geogiseo meomchwoya hamnida. "Neon wollae geureochana"ro kkeunnamyeon ohiryeo seonipgyeonman ssaimnida.
It may well help to start a conversation, but it should stop there. If it ends with "Well, that's just how you are," all it does is build up prejudice.
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A ๊ทธ๋ ๋ค๋ฉด ์ฑ์ฉ์์ ์ฐธ๊ณ ํ๋ ๊ฒ ์์ฒด๊ฐ ์ํํ๊ฒ ๊ตฐ์.
Geureotamyeon chaeyongeseo chamgohaneun geot jachega wiheomhagetgunyo.
Then even using it as a reference in hiring must be risky.
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C ์ฐธ๊ณ ๋ง ํ๋ค๋ฉด ๊ด์ฐฎ๋ค๊ณ ๋ด ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๊ฑธ๋ก ํฉ๊ฒฉ๊ณผ ๋ถํฉ๊ฒฉ์ ๊ฐ๋ฅด์ง๋ ์์ผ๋๊น์.
Chamgoman handamyeon gwaenchantago bomnida. Geugeollo hapgyeokgwa bulhapgyeogeul gareujineun aneunikkayo.
As long as it's only a reference, I think it's fine. We don't decide who passes and who fails on that.
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B ๊ทธ๋ฐ๋ฐ ์ค์ ๋ก ์ฑ์ฉ ๊ณต๊ณ ์ 'ํน์ ์ ํ์ ์ง์ ๋ถ๊ฐ'๋ผ๊ณ ์จ์ ๋ฌธ์ ๊ฐ ๋ ํ์ฌ๋ ์์์ต๋๋ค.
Geureonde siljero chaeyong gonggoe 'teukjeong yuhyeongeun jiwon bulga'rago sseoseo munjega doen hoesado isseotseumnida.
And yet there really was a company that got into trouble for writing 'certain types need not apply' in a job posting.
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D ์ ๋ ๊ทธ ๊ธฐ์ฌ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ณ ์ ์ ํ์ ๋ฐ๊ฟ์ ์ ์ด์ผ ํ๋ ๊ณ ๋ฏผํ์ต๋๋ค.
Jeodo geu gisareul bogo je yuhyeongeul bakkwoseo jeogeoya hana gominhaetseumnida.
I saw that article too, and it made me wonder whether I should write down a different type.
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A ๋ค ๊ธ์์ ์ฌ๋์ด ๋ง์ถฐ ๊ฐ๋ ์ ์ด๋ค์. ๊ต์๋, ๋ง์ง๋ง์ผ๋ก ํ ๋ง์ ๋ถํ๋๋ฆฝ๋๋ค.
Ne geuljae sarami matchwo ganeun semineyo. Gyosunim, majimageuro han malsseum butakdeurimnida.
So people end up fitting themselves to four letters. Professor, a final word, please.
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B ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๊ฐ ๋ฐ๋์ด๋ ๋ฐ์ง์ฐ ์จ๋ ๋ฐ์ง์ฐ ์จ์ ๋๋ค. ๊ฒ์ฌ๋ ๋๋ฅผ ์ค๋ช ํ๋ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ ์ค ํ๋์ผ ๋ฟ, ์ ๋ต์ด ์๋๋๋ค.
Gyeolgwaga bakkwieodo Park Jiu ssineun Park Jiu ssiimnida. Geomsaneun nareul seolmyeonghaneun bangbeop jung hanail ppun, jeongdabi animnida.
Whatever the result, Ms. Park is still Ms. Park. The test is just one way to describe yourself, not the answer.
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A ์ข์ ๋ง์ ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค. ์ฒญ์ทจ์ ์ฌ๋ฌ๋ถ, ์ MBTI๋ฅผ ๋งํ์ค ํ ๋ฉด ํ๋ฒ ๋งํ ๋ณด์ญ์์ค. ์ ๋ต์ ๋ฐฉ์ก ๋๋๊ณ ๊ณต๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค.
Joeun malsseum gamsahamnida. Cheongchwija yeoreobun, je MBTIreul machisil temyeon hanbeon machyeo bosipsio. Jeongdabeun bangsong kkeunnago gonggaehamnida.
Thank you for those words. Listeners, if you think you can guess my MBTI, go ahead and try. I'll reveal the answer after the show.
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