Day 96: Fast Journal or Famous Journal

Dialogue

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   A 여보, 나 결정했어. 이번 논문은 새로 생긴 오픈 액세스 저널에 투고할래. 심사가 한 달이면 끝난대.

   Yeobo, na gyeoljeonghaesseo. Ibeon nonmuneun saero saenggin opeun aekseseu Jeoneore tugohallae. Simsaga han darimyeon kkeunnandae.

   Honey, I've decided. I'm submitting this paper to that new open-access journal. They say the review takes just a month.

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   B 한 달? 너무 빠른데. 혹시 돈만 내면 다 실어 주는 데 아니야?

   Han dal? Neomu ppareunde. Hoksi donman naemyeon da sireo juneun de aniya?

   A month? That's too fast. Isn't that one of those journals that'll publish anything if you pay?

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   A 나도 그거 확인했어. 약탈적 학술지 목록에는 없고, 심사위원도 제대로 두 명 붙는대.

   Nado geugeo hwaginhaesseo. Yaktaljeok haksulji mongnogeneun eopgo, simsawiwondo jedaero du myeong bunneundae.

   I checked that too. It's not on the predatory journal lists, and it has two proper reviewers.

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   B 그래도 삼 년 동안 매달린 연구잖아. 최고 저널에 도전해 볼 만해.

   Geuraedo sam nyeon dongan maedallin yeongujana. Choego Jeoneore dojeonhae bol manhae.

   Still, you've spent three years on this study. It's worth a shot at the top journal.

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   A 알아. 근데 거기는 첫 심사는 말할 것도 없고 수정하는 데만 일 년은 걸려. 승진 심사가 내년 봄인데.

   Ara. Geunde geogineun cheot simsaneun malhal geotdo eopgo sujeonghaneun deman il nyeoneun geollyeo. Seungjin simsaga naenyeon bominde.

   I know. But there, never mind the first review, the revisions alone take a year. And my promotion review is next spring.

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   B 승진 심사에서 논문 개수만 보는 건 아니잖아. 어디에 실렸는지도 보잖아.

   Seungjin simsaeseo nonmun gaesuman boneun geon anijana. Eodie sillyeonneunjido bojana.

   The promotion review doesn't just count papers, though. It looks at where they were published too.

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   A 그게 문제야. 우리 연구소는 인용 지수까지 따져서 좋은 저널이 유리하긴 해. 근데 떨어지면 일 년을 허비하는 거잖아.

   Geuge munjeya. Uri yeongusoneun inyong jisukkaji ttajyeoseo joeun Jeoneori yurihagin hae. Geunde tteoreojimyeon il nyeoneul heobihaneun geojana.

   That's the problem. My institute even looks at impact factors, so a top journal does help. But if it's rejected, I've wasted a whole year.

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   B 그럼 내가 편집장한테 물어봐 줄까? 학회에서 같이 일해서 친분이 좀 있거든.

   Geureom naega pyeonjipjanghante mureobwa julkka? Hakhoeeseo gachi ilhaeseo chinbuni jom itgeodeun.

   Then shall I ask the editor for you? I know him a bit from working together at conferences.

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   A 절대 안 돼. 그랬다가 나중에 알려지면 학계에서 무슨 소리를 들으려고 그래?

   Jeoldae an dwae. Geuraetdaga najunge allyeojimyeon hakgyeeseo museun sorireul deureuryeogo geurae?

   Absolutely not. If that ever got out, can you imagine what people in the field would say?

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    B 물어보기만 하는 건데 뭐 어때? 부탁하는 것도 아니고.

    Mureobogiman haneun geonde mwo eottae? Butakaneun geotdo anigo.

    I'd only be asking. What's the harm? It's not like I'd be asking a favour.

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    A 자기는 그게 얼마나 경솔한 건지 몰라서 그래. 오해받을 만한 일은 처음부터 안 하는 게 맞아.

    Jagineun geuge eolmana gyeongsolhan geonji mollaseo geurae. Ohaebadeul manhan ireun cheoeumbuteo an haneun ge maja.

    You just don't see how careless that would be. It's right not to do anything that could be misread in the first place.

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    B 알았어, 알았어. 그럼 논문을 먼저 프리프린트로 공개해 두고 최고 저널에 내는 건 어때?

    Arasseo, arasseo. Geureom nonmuneul meonjeo peuripeurinteuro gonggaehae dugo choego Jeoneore naeneun geon eottae?

    Okay, okay. Then how about posting the paper as a preprint first and submitting it to the top journal?

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    A 우리 분야는 프리프린트를 성과로 잘 안 쳐 줘. 평가 위원들이 거의 나이 드신 교수님들이거든.

    Uri bunyaneun peuripeurinteureul seonggwaro jal an chyeo jwo. Pyeongga wiwondeuri geoui nai deusin gyosunimdeurigeodeun.

    My field doesn't really count preprints as achievements. The review committee is mostly senior professors.

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    B 그래도 먼저 공개해 두면 누가 비슷한 연구를 먼저 발표할까 봐 걱정할 일은 없잖아.

    Geuraedo meonjeo gonggaehae dumyeon nuga biseutan yeongureul meonjeo balpyohalkka bwa geokjeonghal ireun eopjana.

    Still, if you post it first, you won't have to worry about someone publishing similar research before you.

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    A 음, 그건 맞네. 사실 제일 무서운 게 그거였어. 삼 년 한 걸 누가 먼저 내 버리는 거.

    Eum, geugeon manne. Sasil jeil museoun ge geugeoyeosseo. Sam nyeon han geol nuga meonjeo nae beorineun geo.

    Hmm, that's true. That was actually what scared me most. Someone else publishing three years of my work first.

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    B 그럼 이렇게 하자. 프리프린트 올리고 최고 저널에 먼저 투고한 다음, 석 달 안에 결과가 안 오면 새 저널로 돌리는 거야.

    Geureom ireoke haja. Peuripeurinteu olligo choego Jeoneore meonjeo tugohan daeum, seok dal ane gyeolgwaga an omyeon sae Jeoneollo dollineun geoya.

    Then let's do this. Post the preprint and submit to the top journal first, and if nothing comes back within three months, switch to the new journal.

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    A 승진 서류 마감이 내년 삼월이니까... 석 달이면 계산은 되네. 하루만 더 심사숙고해 볼게.

    Seungjin seoryu magami naenyeon samworinikka... seok darimyeon gyesaneun doene. Haruman deo simsasukgohae bolge.

    The deadline for my promotion papers is next March... so three months works out. Let me think it over carefully for one more day.

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    B 그리고 떨어지면 떨어지는 대로 심사평 받아서 고치면 되지.

    Geurigo tteoreojimyeon tteoreojineun daero simsapyeong badaseo gochimyeon doeji.

    And if it's rejected, you just use the reviewers' comments to improve it.

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    A 좋아. 대신 편집장한테 연락하는 건 끝까지 안 돼. 약속해.

    Joa. Daesin pyeonjipjanghante yeollakaneun geon kkeutkkaji an dwae. Yaksokae.

    Fine. But contacting the editor is off the table, no matter what. Promise me.

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