Day 119: Rehearsing the Redevelopment Debate

Dialogue

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   A 지호 엄마, 바쁜데 이렇게 와 줘서 고마워요. 방송은 난생처음이라 밤에 잠이 안 와요.

   Jiho eomma, bappeunde ireoke wa jwoseo gomawoyo. Bangsongeun nansaengcheoeumira bame jami an wayo.

   Eunyeong, thank you for coming when you're so busy. I've never been on TV in my life, so I can't sleep at night.

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   B 어르신 부탁인데 당연히 와야지요. 제가 사회자를 할 테니까 실제 방송이라고 생각하고 대답해 보세요. 한 번에 일 분이에요.

   Eoreusin butaginde dangyeonhi wayajiyo. Jega sahoejareul hal tenikka silje bangsongirago saenggakago daedapae boseyo. Han beone il bunieyo.

   You asked, so of course I came. I'll be the host, so answer as if it's the real show. One minute per answer.

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   A 일 분이요? 평생 산 동네 얘기를 일 분 안에 어떻게 해요?

   Il buniyo? Pyeongsaeng san dongne yaegireul il bun ane eotteoke haeyo?

   One minute? How am I supposed to talk about the neighbourhood I've lived in all my life in one minute?

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   B 자, 시작하겠습니다. 최병철 선생님, 이번 재개발을 반대하시는 이유를 말씀해 주시겠습니까?

   Ja, sijakagetseumnida. Choebyeongcheol seonsaengnim, ibeon jaegaebareul bandaehasineun iyureul malsseumhae jusigetseumnikka?

   Okay, here we go. Mr. Choi Byeongcheol, could you tell us why you oppose this redevelopment?

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   A 에, 그러니까 내가 이 동네에 처음 온 게 칠십삼 년인데, 그때는 저 아래로 개천이 흘렀고, 우리 집사람이 거기서 빨래를 하면서...

   E, geureonikka naega i dongnee cheoeum on ge chilsipsam nyeoninde, geuttaeneun jeo araero gaecheoni heulleotgo, uri jipsarami geogiseo ppallaereul hamyeonseo...

   Well, you see, I first came to this neighbourhood in '73, and back then there was a stream running down there, and my wife used to do the washing in it...

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   B 선생님, 죄송하지만 시간이 다 됐습니다. 빨래 얘기에서 끝나셨어요.

   Seonsaengnim, joesonghajiman sigani da dwaetseumnida. Ppallae yaegieseo kkeunnasyeosseoyo.

   I'm sorry, sir, but time's up. You ended on the laundry.

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   A 아니, 아직 본론도 안 꺼냈는데 벌써요? 아무리 방송이기로서니 할 말도 못 하나요?

   Ani, ajik bollondo an kkeonaenneunde beolsseoyo? Amuri bangsongigiroseoni hal maldo mot hanayo?

   What? I haven't even got to the point yet! It may be television, but am I not even allowed to say my piece?

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   B 방송이니까 더 그래요, 어르신. 상대편은 숫자를 들고 나와요. 녹물 나오는 수도관, 주차 문제, 소방차가 못 들어가는 골목 같은 거요.

   Bangsonginikka deo geuraeyo, eoreusin. Sangdaepyeoneun sutjareul deulgo nawayo. Nongmul naoneun sudogwan, jucha munje, sobangchaga mot deureoganeun golmok gateun geoyo.

   Because it's television, sir. The other side will come with numbers. Water pipes that run rusty, parking problems, alleys fire engines can't get into.

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   A 지호 엄마가 그걸 어떻게 그렇게 잘 알아요? 꼭 저쪽 편 사람처럼 말하네요.

   Jiho eommaga geugeol eotteoke geureoke jal arayo? Kkok jeojjok pyeon saramcheoreom malhaneyo.

   How do you know all that so well? You sound just like someone from the other side.

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    B 사실 저는 찬성 쪽이에요. 지호가 천식이 있거든요. 겨울마다 곰팡이 때문에 고생해요.

    Sasil jeoneun chanseong jjogieyo. Jihoga cheonsigi itgeodeunyo. Gyeoulmada gompangi ttaemune gosaenghaeyo.

    Actually, I'm for it. Jiho has asthma. Every winter, the mould makes him ill.

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    A 그랬구먼요, 몰랐어요. 그런데도 반대하는 늙은이를 도와주러 온 거예요?

    Geuraetgumeonyo, mollasseoyo. Geureondedo bandaehaneun neulgeunireul dowajureo on geoyeyo?

    I see. I didn't know. And you still came to help an old man who's against it?

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    B 반대하시는 분 얘기도 제대로 들려야 토론이죠. 어르신이 빨래 얘기만 하시다가 끝나면 제가 속상할 것 같아요.

    Bandaehasineun bun yaegido jedaero deullyeoya toronijyo. Eoreusini ppallae yaegiman hasidaga kkeunnamyeon jega soksanghal geot gatayo.

    A debate only works if the other side gets properly heard too. If you just talked about laundry and ran out of time, I'd feel bad.

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    A 허허, 고맙네요. 그럼 숫자로 해 볼게요. 지호 엄마, 내가 이 동네에서 몇 년 살았게요?

    Heoheo, gomamneyo. Geureom sutjaro hae bolgeyo. Jiho eomma, naega i dongneeseo myeot nyeon saratgeyo?

    Heh, thank you. Then I'll try numbers. Eunyeong, guess how many years I've lived here.

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    B 음, 한 사십 년쯤이요? 지호 할머니가 어르신이 제일 오래 사셨다고 하시던데요.

    Eum, han sasip nyeonjjeumiyo? Jiho halmeoniga eoreusini jeil orae sasyeotdago hasideondeyo.

    Um, about forty? Jiho's grandma says you've lived here the longest.

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    A 올해로 쉰세 해째예요. 그리고 이 골목에만 독거노인이 서른 명이 넘어요. 집을 철거하고 아파트가 들어서면 분담금 낼 돈 없는 사람은 다 떠나야 돼요.

    Olhaero swinse haejjaeyeyo. Geurigo i golmogeman dokgeonoini seoreun myeongi neomeoyo. Jibeul cheolgeohago apateuga deureoseomyeon bundamgeum nael don eomneun sarameun da tteonaya dwaeyo.

    Fifty-three years this year. And in this alley alone, more than thirty old people live on their own. When the houses are torn down and the apartments go up, anyone who can't pay their share of the costs will have to leave.

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    B 좋아요, 바로 그거예요! 빨래 얘기보다 백 배 나아요. 쉰세 해로 시작하시고, 독거노인 서른 명, 분담금, 딱 이 세 가지만 말씀하세요.

    Joayo, baro geugeoyeyo! Ppallae yaegiboda baek bae naayo. Swinse haero sijakasigo, dokgeonoin seoreun myeong, bundamgeum, ttak i se gajiman malsseumhaseyo.

    Great, that's it! A hundred times better than the laundry. Open with fifty-three years, then the thirty people living alone and the contributions. Just those three things.

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    A 그럼 우리 집사람이 심은 감나무 얘기는요? 사실 그게 제일 하고 싶은 말인데요.

    Geureom uri jipsarami simeun gamnamu yaegineunyo? Sasil geuge jeil hago sipeun marindeyo.

    What about the persimmon tree my wife planted? That's actually what I most want to talk about.

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    B 그건 마지막 한마디로 아껴 두세요. 숫자로 머리를 설득하시고, 감나무로 마음을 움직이시는 거예요.

    Geugeon majimak hanmadiro akkyeo duseyo. Sutjaro meorireul seoldeukasigo, gamnamuro maeumeul umjigisineun geoyeyo.

    Save that for your closing line. Use the numbers to convince their heads and the persimmon tree to move their hearts.

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    A 지호 엄마, 방송국에서 일한 적 있어요? 아주 선수네요.

    Jiho eomma, bangsonggugeseo ilhan jeok isseoyo? Aju seonsuneyo.

    Have you ever worked in TV? You're a real pro.

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    B 아니요. 근데 사실 저도 그 토론에 나가요. 찬성하는 주민 대표로요.

    Aniyo. Geunde sasil jeodo geu torone nagayo. Chanseonghaneun jumin daepyoroyo.

    No. But actually, I'm on that debate too. As the representative of the residents who are for it.

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    A 뭐요? 그럼 내가 지금까지 상대편한테 과외를 받고 있었던 거예요?

    Mwoyo? Geureom naega jigeumkkaji sangdaepyeonhante gwaoereul batgo isseotdeon geoyeyo?

    What? So I've been getting coached by the other side this whole time?

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    B 네. 대신 저도 어르신 감나무 얘기를 들었으니까, 방송에서 어르신 말씀을 함부로 끊지는 못하겠네요.

    Ne. Daesin jeodo eoreusin gamnamu yaegireul deureosseunikka, bangsongeseo eoreusin malsseumeul hamburo kkeunchineun motagenneyo.

    Yes. But now that I've heard about your persimmon tree, I won't be able to just cut you off on air.

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    A 허허, 이거 참. 좋아요, 방송에서는 서로 봐주지 말고 제대로 붙어 봅시다. 끝나면 우리 집에서 감이나 깎아 먹고요.

    Heoheo, igeo cham. Joayo, bangsongeseoneun seoro bwajuji malgo jedaero buteo bopsida. Kkeunnamyeon uri jibeseo gamina kkakka meokgoyo.

    Ha, well I never. All right, on the show, no going easy on each other - let's have a proper fight. And afterwards, we'll peel some persimmons at my place.

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    B 좋아요. 자, 한 번 더 갑니다. 최병철 선생님, 반대하시는 이유를 일 분 안에 말씀해 주시겠습니까?

    Joayo. Ja, han beon deo gamnida. Choebyeongcheol seonsaengnim, bandaehasineun iyureul il bun ane malsseumhae jusigetseumnikka?

    Deal. Okay, once more. Mr. Choi, could you tell us in one minute why you're against it?

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