Day 4: Coaching for a Youth Debate Show

Dialogue

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   B 민재야, 방금 리허설 영상 같이 보자. 토론하는 동안 네가 상대 말을 몇 번 끊었는지 한번 세어 봐.

   Minjaeya, banggeum riheoseol yeongsang gachi boja. Toronhaneun dongan nega sangdae mareul myeot beon kkeuneonneunji hanbeon seeo bwa.

   Minjae, let's watch the rehearsal video together. Count how many times you cut the other side off during the debate.

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   A 선생님, 그건 상대편이 먼저 끊었잖아요. 저는 제 발언 시간을 지키려고 한 것뿐이에요.

   Seonsaengnim, geugeon sangdaepyeoni meonjeo kkeuneotjanayo. Jeoneun je bareon siganeul jikiryeogo han geotppunieyo.

   But sir, they cut me off first. I was just trying to protect my speaking time.

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   B 화면 봐. 상대가 첫 문장을 끝내기도 전에 네가 "그건 사실이 아닙니다"부터 외치잖아. 넌 흥분하면 상대 말을 끊기 일쑤야.

   Hwamyeon bwa. Sangdaega cheot munjangeul kkeunnaegido jeone nega "geugeon sasiri animnida"buteo oechijana. Neon heungbunhamyeon sangdae mareul kkeunki ilssuya.

   Look at the screen. They haven't even finished their first sentence and you're already shouting "That's not true." When you get worked up, you're forever cutting people off.

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   A 그렇지만 저쪽이 투표 연령을 열여섯 살로 낮추면 학교가 정치판이 된다고 근거도 없이 말하니까 가만히 있을 수가 없었어요.

   Geureochiman jeojjogi tupyo yeollyeongeul yeoryeoseot sallo natchumyeon hakgyoga jeongchipani doendago geungeodo eopsi malhanikka gamanhi isseul suga eopseosseoyo.

   But they were claiming, with no evidence, that lowering the voting age to sixteen would turn schools into political battlegrounds. I couldn't just sit there.

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   B 근거가 없으면 그 억지를 지적하면 되지, 말을 자를 필요는 없어. 시청자 눈에는 끼어드는 쪽이 지는 거야.

   Geungeoga eopseumyeon geu eokjireul jijeokamyeon doeji, mareul jareul piryoneun eopseo. Sicheongja nuneneun kkieodeuneun jjogi jineun geoya.

   If they have no evidence, point out that it's a stretch. There's no need to interrupt. To viewers, whoever butts in is the one who loses.

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   A 방송은 시간이 짧잖아요. 기다리다가 제 차례가 안 올 수도 있어요.

   Bangsongeun sigani jjaljanayo. Gidaridaga je charyega an ol sudo isseoyo.

   But TV time is so short. If I wait, my turn might never come.

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   B 그래서 사회자가 있는 거야. 상대가 말을 끊거들랑 웃으면서 기다려. 경청하는 척이라도 하면서 사회자가 먼저 제지하게 두는 게 훨씬 품위 있어 보여.

   Geuraeseo sahoejaga inneun geoya. Sangdaega mareul kkeunkeodeullang useumyeonseo gidaryeo. Gyeongcheonghaneun cheogirado hamyeonseo sahoejaga meonjeo jejihage duneun ge hwolssin pumwi isseo boyeo.

   That's what the moderator is for. If they cut you off, smile and wait. Look like you're listening, at least, and let the moderator stop them. It looks far more dignified.

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   A 알겠어요. 그런데 숫자 부분은요? 제가 인용한 통계는 다 맞았잖아요.

   Algesseoyo. Geureonde sutja bubuneunyo? Jega inyonghan tonggyeneun da majatjanayo.

   Okay. But what about the numbers? The statistics I quoted were all correct.

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   B 다시 들어 봐. 너 OECD 국가 대부분이 열여섯 살부터 투표한다고 했지? 대부분은 열여덟 살이야. 급하면 숫자를 틀리기 일쑤고.

   Dasi deureo bwa. Neo OECD gukga daebubuni yeoryeoseot salbuteo tupyohandago haetji? Daebubuneun yeoryeodeol sariya. Geupamyeon sutjareul teulligi ilssugo.

   Listen again. You said most OECD countries let people vote from sixteen, didn't you? Most of them start at eighteen. And when you rush, you're forever getting numbers wrong.

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    A 아, 그건 오스트리아 얘기를 하다가 헷갈렸어요. 준비할 때는 분명히 제대로 적어 놨는데요.

    A, geugeon Oseuteuria yaegireul hadaga hetgallyeosseoyo. Junbihal ttaeneun bunmyeonghi jedaero jeogeo nwanneundeyo.

    Oh, I got mixed up while talking about Austria. I definitely wrote it down correctly when I was preparing.

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    B 그러니까 더 조심해야 돼. 섣불리 숫자를 들이댔다가 하나라도 틀리면, 상대는 그걸로 네 주장 전체를 흔들 거야. 반박할 빌미를 주지 마.

    Geureonikka deo josimhaeya dwae. Seotbulli sutjareul deuridaetdaga hanarado teullimyeon, sangdaeneun geugeollo ne jujang jeonchereul heundeul geoya. Banbakal bilmireul juji ma.

    That's exactly why you need to be more careful. Throw numbers around carelessly, get even one wrong, and they'll use it to shake your whole argument. Don't hand them an opening.

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    A 그럼 숫자는 아예 빼고 말할까요? 틀리느니 차라리 안 하는 게 낫잖아요.

    Geureom sutjaneun aye ppaego malhalkkayo? Teullineuni charari an haneun ge natjanayo.

    Then should I leave the numbers out altogether? Better not to say them than to get them wrong.

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    B 빼지는 마. 대신 핵심 숫자 두 개만 카드에 크게 적어 두고, 숫자를 말할 때마다 카드를 봐. 방송에서 카드 보는 건 흠이 아니야.

    Ppaejineun ma. Daesin haeksim sutja du gaeman kadeue keuge jeogeo dugo, sutjareul malhal ttaemada kadeureul bwa. Bangsongeseo kadeu boneun geon heumi aniya.

    Don't drop them. Just write the two key numbers big on a card and look at it every time you use them. Checking a card on air is nothing to be ashamed of.

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    A 그리고 선생님, 솔직히 저쪽 토론자도 툭하면 인신공격을 했잖아요. "고등학생이 뭘 알겠냐"는 식으로요.

    Geurigo seonsaengnim, soljiki jeojjok toronjado tukamyeon insingonggyeogeul haetjanayo. "Godeunghaksaengi mwol algennya"neun sigeuroyo.

    And sir, honestly, their debater kept making it personal too. Things like "What would a high-schooler know?"

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    B 맞아, 그건 저쪽 약점이야. 그럴 때 네가 조급해서 화부터 내면 그 말이 맞는 것처럼 보여. 차분하게 받아치면 네가 이기는 거고.

    Maja, geugeon jeojjok yakjeomiya. Geureol ttae nega jogeupaeseo hwabuteo naemyeon geu mari manneun geotcheoreom boyeo. Chabunhage badachimyeon nega igineun geogo.

    Right, that's their weak spot. If you get impatient and lose your temper then, it looks like they have a point. If you answer calmly, you win.

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    A 어떻게 받아쳐요? "저도 과자 하나를 사도 세금을 냅니다" 같은 거요?

    Eotteoke badachyeoyo? "Jeodo gwaja hanareul sado segeumeul naemnida" gateun geoyo?

    How do I answer? Something like "I pay tax too, even when I buy a bag of crisps"?

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    B 좋아, 그런 게 바로 근거야. 감정 대신 사실로 말하는 거. 다만 그 말도 끝까지 차분하게 해야 돼.

    Joa, geureon ge baro geungeoya. Gamjeong daesin sasillo malhaneun geo. Daman geu maldo kkeutkkaji chabunhage haeya dwae.

    Good, that's exactly what evidence is. Speaking with facts instead of feelings. But you have to say it calmly, all the way through.

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    A 알겠어요. 대신 저쪽이 또 제 말을 끊으면, 그때는 저도 웃기만 하진 않을 거예요.

    Algesseoyo. Daesin jeojjogi tto je mareul kkeuneumyeon, geuttaeneun jeodo utgiman hajin aneul geoyeyo.

    Okay. But if they cut me off again, I won't just smile.

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    B 그땐 웃으면서 이렇게 말해. "제 발언이 끝나거든 충분히 들어 드리겠습니다." 자, 처음부터 다시 해 보자.

    Geuttaen useumyeonseo ireoke malhae. "Je bareoni kkeunnageodeun chungbunhi deureo deurigetseumnida." Ja, cheoeumbuteo dasi hae boja.

    Then smile and say this: "Once I've finished, I'll be happy to hear you out." Now, let's go again from the top.

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