Day 8: Reviewer Two Strikes Again
Late at night in a graduate school lab, Junho (A) reads out the reviewers' comments on the first journal paper of Seoyeon (B), his labmate and friend.
How to study this lesson 4 steps
- Read the situation under the title. It says who is talking and how they know each other, which decides how politely they speak.
- Read the dialogue line by line with its translation, until every line makes sense. Still learning Hangul? Tick Romanization to see how each line sounds, but read the Korean first.
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- Spend at least 30 minutes listening to native Korean, for example from the Resources page. It doesn't matter if you don't understand it yet.
Dialogue
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B ์คํธ์ผ, ๋ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ ๋ฉ์ผ ๋ชป ์ด๊ฒ ์ด. ๋ค๊ฐ ๋์ ์ฝ์ด ์ค. '์์ ํ ์ฌ์ฌ์ฌ'์ธ์ง '๊ฒ์ฌ ๋ถ๊ฐ'์ธ์ง๋ง ๋จผ์ ๋งํด ์ค.
Junhoya, na gyeolgwa meil mot yeolgesseo. Nega daesin ilgeo jwo. 'Sujeong hu jaesimsa'inji 'gejae bulga'injiman meonjeo malhae jwo.
Junho, I can't open the decision email. Read it for me. Just tell me first whether it's "revise and resubmit" or "reject."
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A ์ ๊น๋ง... ๋คํ์ด๋ค, '๋ํญ ์์ ํ ์ฌ์ฌ์ฌ'์ผ. ๋จ์ด์ง ๊ฑด ์๋๋๊น ์ผ๋จ ์จ ์ข ์ฌ์ด.
Jamkkanman... dahaengida, 'daepok sujeong hu jaesimsa'ya. Tteoreojin geon aninikka ildan sum jom swieo.
Hang on... Phew, it's "major revisions, then re-review." You haven't been rejected, so breathe.
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B ๋ํญ ์์ ์ด๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ฒ ๊ทธ๊ฑฐ์ง ๋ญ. ์ฌ์ฌ์์์ ๋ช ๋ช ์ด์ผ?
Daepok sujeongimyeon geuge geugeoji mwo. Simsawiwoneun myeot myeongiya?
Major revisions - same difference. How many reviewers are there?
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A ์ฌ์ฌ์์์ ๋ ๋ช . 1๋ฒ์ ์งง๊ณ ์ ์๋ค. "ํ๋ณธ ์ฑ์ทจ ์ง์ ์ด ์ ์ธ ๊ณณ๋ฟ์ธ์ง ์ค๋ช ์ด ํ์ํ๋ค." ์ด๊ฑด ๋ง๋ ๋ง์ด์์.
Simsawiwoneun du myeong. 1beoneun jjalgo jeomjanne. "Pyobon chaechwi jijeomi wae se gotppuninji seolmyeongi piryohada." Igeon manneun marijana.
Two reviewers. Number one is short and polite. "The authors need to explain why there are only three sampling sites." That's fair, isn't it?
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B ์, ๊ทธ๊ฑด ๋๋ ์ฐ๋ ธ์ด. ์์ฐ ๋๋ฌธ์ ์ธ ๊ณณ๋ง ํ ๊ฑด๋ฐ, ๊ทธ ํ๊ณ๋ฅผ ๋ ผ๋ฌธ์ ์ ๋๋ก ์ ์ผ๊ฑฐ๋ .
Eung, geugeon nado jjillyeosseo. Yesan ttaemune se gonman han geonde, geu hangyereul nonmune jedaero an sseotgeodeun.
Yeah, that one stung because it's true. We only did three sites because of the budget, and I never properly admitted that limitation in the paper.
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A ๋ฌธ์ ๋ 2๋ฒ์ด์ผ. ๋ค์ด ๋ด. "์ฐ๊ตฌ์ ๋ ์ฐฝ์ฑ์ด ์์ฌ์ค๋ฝ๊ณ , ์์ด ๋ฌธ์ฅ์ด ์ ๋ฐ์ ์ผ๋ก ์กฐ์กํ๋ค." ์, ์ด ์ฌ์ฌ์์ ์์ฃผ ์์ ์ ํ๊ตฌ๋จผ.
Munjeneun 2beoniya. Deureo bwa. "Yeonguui dokchangseongi uisimseureopgo, Yeongeo munjangi jeonbanjeogeuro jojapada." Wa, i simsawiwon aju jakjeongeul haetgumeon.
The problem is number two. Listen. "The originality of the study is doubtful, and the English is sloppy throughout." Wow, this reviewer's really got it in for you.
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B ์กฐ์กํ๋ค๊ณ ? ์๋ฌธ ๊ต์ ๊น์ง ๋ฐ์ ์๊ณ ์ธ๋ฐ. ๋ ๊ทธ๋ฅ ์ํดํ ๊น ๋ด.
Jojapadago? Yeongmun gyojeongkkaji badeun wongoinde. Na geunyang jatoehalkka bwa.
Sloppy? That manuscript was professionally proofread. Maybe I should just drop out.
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A ์ํด๋ ๋ฌด์จ. ๋ ๋ค์ด ๋ด. "๊ด๋ จ ์ ํ ์ฐ๊ตฌ๋ก ๋ค์ ๋ ผ๋ฌธ ๋ค์ฏ ํธ์ ๋ฐ๋์ ์ธ์ฉํ ๊ฒ." ๊ทผ๋ฐ ๋ค์ฏ ํธ ์ ์๊ฐ ์ ๋ถ ๊ฐ์ ์ฌ๋์ด์ผ.
Jatoeneun museun. Deo deureo bwa. "Gwallyeon seonhaeng yeonguro daeum nonmun daseot pyeoneul bandeusi inyonghal geot." Geunde daseot pyeon jeojaga jeonbu gateun saramiya.
Drop out, my foot. Listen to this. "The authors must cite the following five papers as related prior work." And all five are by the same person.
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B ๋ญ? ์ค๋ง ์๊ธฐ ๋ ผ๋ฌธ์ ์ธ์ฉํ๋ผ๋ ๊ฑฐ์ผ? ์ต๋ช ์ฌ์ฌ๋ผ๋ฉด์?
Mwo? Seolma jagi nonmuneul inyongharaneun geoya? Ingmyeong simsaramyeonseo?
What? You mean they're telling me to cite their own papers? Isn't the review supposed to be anonymous?
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A ์ต๋ช ์ด๋ผ๋ ํฐ๊ฐ ๋ค ๋๋๊ตฌ๋จผ. ์๊ธฐ ๋ ผ๋ฌธ ํ๋ณด๋ฅผ ์ด๋ ๊ฒ ๋๋๊ณ ํ๋ ๊ฑด ๋๋ ์ฒ์ ๋ด.
Ingmyeongirado tiga da naneungumeon. Jagi nonmun hongboreul ireoke daenoko haneun geon nado cheoeum bwa.
Anonymous or not, it's plain as day. I've never seen anyone plug their own papers so shamelessly.
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B ํ, ์ด์ด๊ฐ ์์ด์ ์์๋ฐ์ ์ ๋์จ๋ค. ๊ทธ๋ผ ์ด๊ฑด ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ํด? ๊ทธ๋ฅ ๋ฌด์ํด๋ ๋ผ?
Ha, eoiga eopseoseo useumbakke an naonda. Geureom igeon eotteoke hae? Geunyang musihaedo dwae?
Ha, it's so absurd all I can do is laugh. So what do I do about this? Can I just ignore it?
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A ๋ฌด์ํ๋ฉด ์ ๋์ง. ๋ค์ฏ ํธ ์ค์ ์ง์ง ๊ด๋ จ ์๋ ํ๋ ํธ๋ง ์ธ์ฉํ๊ณ , ๋๋จธ์ง๋ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ ์ฐ๊ตฌ๋ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ๋ก ์ด ๋ฌ๋ผ์ ์ ์ธํ๋ค๊ณ ์ ์คํ๊ฒ ์ฐ๋ ๊ฑฐ์ผ.
Musihamyeon an doeji. Daseot pyeon junge jinjja gwallyeon inneun handu pyeonman inyonghago, nameojineun uri yeongurang bangbeomnoni dallaseo jeoehaetdago jeongjunghage sseuneun geoya.
No, you can't ignore it. Cite the one or two that are really relevant, and politely say you left out the rest because their methods differ from ours.
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B ๋ ์ฐฝ์ฑ ์๊ธฐ๋? ๊ทธ๊ฑด ๋๋ฌด ๋ชจ์์ ์ด์ผ. ์ผ ๋ ๋์ ๊ฐ๋ฐ๋ฅ์ ๋ค์ ธ์ ๋ชจ์ ๋ฐ์ดํฐ์ธ๋ฐ.
Dokchangseong yaegineun? Geugeon neomu moyokjeogiya. Sam nyeon dongan gangbadageul dwijyeoseo moeun deiteoinde.
And the originality comment? That's so insulting. That's data I spent three years dredging up from riverbeds.
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A ๊ทธ๋ฌ๋๊น ๊ฐ์ ๋ง๊ณ ๋ฐ์ดํฐ๋ก ๋ฐ์์ณ์ผ์ง. ๊ฐ์ ๊ฐ์์ ๋ฏธ์ธํ๋ผ์คํฑ์ ๊ณ์ ๋ณ๋ก ์ธก์ ํ ์ฐ๊ตฌ๊ฐ ์๋์ง ์ฐพ์์ ํ๋ก ๋ณด์ฌ ์ค. ์์ผ๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ฒ ๋ ์ฐฝ์ฑ์ด์ผ.
Geureonikka gamjeong malgo deiteoro badachyeoyaji. Gateun gangeseo misepeullaseutigeul gyejeolbyeollo cheukjeonghan yeonguga inneunji chajaseo pyoro boyeo jwo. Eopseumyeon geuge dokchangseongiya.
That's exactly why you hit back with data, not feelings. Look for any study that measured microplastics in the same river season by season, and put it in a table. If there aren't any, that's your originality.
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B ๋ง์, ๊ณ์ ๋ณ ๋น๊ต๋ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ์ฒ์์ด์ผ. ๊ทธ๊ฑธ ์๋ก ์์ ์ข ๋ ๊ฐ์กฐํ์ด์ผ ํ๋ค.
Maja, gyejeolbyeol bigyoneun uriga cheoeumiya. Geugeol seoroneseo jom deo gangjohaesseoya haenne.
Right, we're the first to compare the seasons. I should have put that up front in the introduction.
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A ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ฌ์ฌ์ฌ ๋ ๋ ํธ์ง์ ์ก๊ฑฐ๋ค๋, ํธ์ง์ฅํํ ๋ฐ๋ก ๋ฉ์ผ์ ๋ณด๋ด๋ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ๋ ์์ด. ๊ต์๋๋ ์์ ์ ๊ทธ๋ ๊ฒ ํ์ จ๋.
Geurigo jaesimsa ttae tto teujibeul japgeodeullang, pyeonjipjanghante ttaro meireul bonaeneun bangbeopdo isseo. Gyosunimdo yejeone geureoke hasyeotdae.
And if they nitpick again in the second round, you can also email the editor separately. Apparently our professor did that once.
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B ์์์ด. 1๋ฒ ์๊ฒฌ์ ๋ค ๋ฐ์๋ค์ด๊ณ , 2๋ฒ์ ๋ฐ์ ์์ฉ, ๋ฐ์ ๋ฐ๋ฐ. ์ค๋ ๋ฐค์ ๋ต๋ณ์ ์ด์๋ถํฐ ์จ ๋ณผ๊ฒ.
Arasseo. 1beon uigyeoneun da badadeurigo, 2beoneun baneun suyong, baneun banbak. Oneul bame dapbyeonseo choanbuteo sseo bolge.
Okay. Accept everything from reviewer one, and for reviewer two, half accept, half rebut. I'll start drafting the response letter tonight.
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A ๊ทธ ๊ธฐ์ธ ์ข๊ตฌ๋จผ. ๋์ ์ค๋์ ์ด์๋ง ์ฐ๊ณ ์. ํ๋ ์ฑ๋ก ๋ต์ฅ ์ฐ์ง ์๊ธฐ, ์ฐ๋ฆฌ ์ฐ๊ตฌ์ค ์ ํต์ด์์.
Geu gise jokumeon. Daesin oneureun choanman sseugo ja. Hwanan chaero dapjang sseuji anki, uri yeongusil jeontongijana.
That's the spirit. But just write the draft tonight and then sleep. Never reply while you're angry - that's our lab's tradition.
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B ๊ทธ๋, ๊ณ ๋ง์. ๊ทผ๋ฐ ๋ ์๊น๋ถํฐ ๋งํฌ๊ฐ ์ ๊ทธ๋? ๊ต์๋ ๋งํฌ ์ฎ์์ด?
Geurae, gomawo. Geunde neo akkabuteo maltuga wae geurae? Gyosunim maltu olmasseo?
Okay, thanks. But what's with the old-man talk all evening? Did you catch it from the professor?
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