Day 117: Training the AI That Replaces Us

Dialogue

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   B 지훈 씨, 아직 안 갔어요? 벌써 열 시 넘었어요. 라벨링은 내일 해도 돼요.

   Jihun ssi, ajik an gasseoyo? Beolsseo yeol si neomeosseoyo. Rabellingeun naeil haedo dwaeyo.

   Jihun, you're still here? It's past ten. The labelling can wait till tomorrow.

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   A 팀장님, 사실 일이 많아서 남은 게 아니에요. 도저히 손이 안 가서 붙잡고만 있었어요.

   Timjangnim, sasil iri manaseo nameun ge anieyo. Dojeohi soni an gaseo butjapgoman isseosseoyo.

   Actually, I'm not here because there's too much work. I just can't bring myself to do it, so I've been sitting here staring at it.

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   B 왜요, 무슨 문제 있어요? 판단 기준이 애매한 사례가 많아요?

   Waeyo, museun munje isseoyo? Pandan gijuni aemaehan saryega manayo?

   Why, what's wrong? Lots of borderline cases?

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   A 기준 문제가 아니라요. 이 시스템이 완성되면 심사팀 절반은 감원 대상이라면서요. 민정 선배님 자리도 포함해서요.

   Gijun munjega anirayo. I siseutemi wanseongdoemyeon simsatim jeolbaneun gamwon daesangiramyeonseoyo. Minjeong seonbaenim jarido pohamhaeseoyo.

   It's not the criteria. They say once this system's up and running, half the claims team will be cut. Including Minjeong's job.

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   B 그 얘기를 들었군요. 공식적으로 정해진 건 아직 아무것도 없어요.

   Geu yaegireul deureotgunyo. Gongsikjeogeuro jeonghaejin geon ajik amugeotdo eopseoyo.

   So you heard. Nothing's been officially decided yet.

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   A 그래도요. 선배님이 십 년 동안 쌓은 노하우를 제가 기계한테 하나하나 가르치고 있잖아요. 동료 일자리를 없앨 프로그램을 저더러 학습시키래서야 말이 돼요? 이게 사람이 할 짓인가 싶어요.

   Geuraedoyo. Seonbaenimi sip nyeon dongan ssaeun nohaureul jega gigyehante hanahana gareuchigo itjanayo. Dongnyo iljarireul eopsael peurogeuraemeul jeodeoreo hakseupsikiraeseoya mari dwaeyo? Ige sarami hal jisinga sipeoyo.

   Still. I'm teaching a machine, bit by bit, the know-how she built up over ten years. And now I'm told to train the very program that'll wipe out my colleagues' jobs? How does that make sense? I have to wonder if this is something a decent person should do.

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   B 지훈 씨 마음은 알겠어요. 근데 반대로 한번 생각해 볼까요? 일부러 반대편 얘기를 해 볼게요.

   Jihun ssi maeumeun algesseoyo. Geunde bandaero hanbeon saenggakae bolkkayo? Ilbureo bandaepyeon yaegireul hae bolgeyo.

   I understand how you feel. But shall we look at it the other way round? I'll deliberately argue the other side.

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   A 네, 해 보세요. 설득당할 준비는 아직 안 됐지만요.

   Ne, hae boseyo. Seoldeukdanghal junbineun ajik an dwaetjimanyo.

   Go ahead. Though I'm not ready to be persuaded yet.

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   B 우리가 안 만들어도 누군가는 만들어요. 경쟁사는 벌써 도입했고요. 그럼 우리 회사가 뒤처지고, 그때는 절반이 아니라 팀 전체가 위험해질 수도 있어요.

   Uriga an mandeureodo nugunganeun mandeureoyo. Gyeongjaengsaneun beolsseo doipaetgoyo. Geureom uri hoesaga dwicheojigo, geuttaeneun jeolbani anira tim jeonchega wiheomhaejil sudo isseoyo.

   If we don't build it, someone else will. Our competitors already have. Then our company falls behind, and at that point it might not be half the team at risk but the whole team.

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    A 그 논리대로라면 무슨 일이든 정당화할 수 있잖아요. '어차피 누가 할 거니까' 하고요.

    Geu nollidaeroramyeon museun irideun jeongdanghwahal su itjanayo. 'Eochapi nuga hal geonikka' hagoyo.

    By that logic you can justify anything. "Someone's going to do it anyway."

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    B 날카롭네요. 그럼 이건 어때요? 심사 일 대부분은 서류 대조하고 숫자 확인하는 반복 작업이에요. 그걸 즐거워하는 사람이 있을까요?

    Nalkaromneyo. Geureom igeon eottaeyo? Simsa il daebubuneun seoryu daejohago sutja hwaginhaneun banbok jageobieyo. Geugeol jeulgeowohaneun sarami isseulkkayo?

    Sharp. Then how about this? Most of the review work is repetitive: matching documents and checking numbers. Does anyone actually enjoy that?

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    A 즐겁지 않아도 그게 선배님 밥벌이예요. 그리고 선배님은 그 반복 속에서 수상한 서류를 귀신같이 잡아내세요.

    Jeulgeopji anado geuge seonbaenim bapbeoriyeyo. Geurigo seonbaenimeun geu banbok sogeseo susanghan seoryureul gwisingachi jabanaeseyo.

    Even if it's not fun, it's how she earns her living. And in all that repetition, she catches suspicious claims like nobody else.

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    B 바로 그거예요. 반복은 기계가 하고, 그런 감각은 사람이 더 어려운 사건에 쓰는 거죠. 그게 회사가 내세우는 명분이에요.

    Baro geugeoyeyo. Banbogeun gigyega hago, geureon gamgageun sarami deo eoryeoun sageone sseuneun geojyo. Geuge hoesaga naeseuneun myeongbunieyo.

    That's exactly it. The machine does the repetition, and people use that instinct on harder cases. That's the justification the company gives.

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    A '회사가 내세우는 명분'이라고 하시는 걸 보니, 팀장님도 다 믿지는 않으시는 것 같은데요.

    'Hoesaga naeseuneun myeongbun'irago hasineun geol boni, timjangnimdo da mitjineun aneusineun geot gateundeyo.

    The way you say "the justification the company gives," I get the feeling you don't fully believe it either.

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    B 허, 들켰네요. 솔직히 저도 좀 회의적이에요. 제 결재 업무도 절반은 자동화 대상이거든요.

    Heo, deulkyeonneyo. Soljiki jeodo jom hoeuijeogieyo. Je gyeoljae eommudo jeolbaneun jadonghwa daesangigeodeunyo.

    Ha, caught me. Honestly, I have my doubts too. Half of my own approval work is slated for automation as well.

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    A 팀장님도요? 그럼 우리는 지금 우리 손으로 우리 자리를 치우고 있는 거네요.

    Timjangnimdoyo? Geureom urineun jigeum uri soneuro uri jarireul chiugo inneun geoneyo.

    You too? So we're clearing out our own desks with our own hands.

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    B 그런 걱정일랑 잠시 접어 둡시다. 어차피 오늘 밤에 결론 날 문제도 아니고요. 대신 하나만 물어볼게요. 지훈 씨한테 일은 뭐예요?

    Geureon geokjeongillang jamsi jeobeo dupsida. Eochapi oneul bame gyeollon nal munjedo anigoyo. Daesin hanaman mureobolgeyo. Jihun ssihante ireun mwoyeyo?

    Let's put that kind of worry aside for a moment. It's not something we'll settle tonight anyway. But let me ask you one thing. What is work to you, Jihun?

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    A 갑자기 철학 시간이네요. 음, 월급 받는 수단이죠. 근데 그게 다라면 이렇게 마음이 불편하진 않겠죠.

    Gapjagi cheolhak siganineyo. Eum, wolgeup banneun sudanijyo. Geunde geuge daramyeon ireoke maeumi bulpyeonhajin anketjyo.

    Suddenly it's philosophy class. Um, a way to get paid. But if that were all it was, I wouldn't feel this uneasy.

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    B 그렇죠. 일은 돈이기도 하지만, 내가 쓸모 있는 사람이라는 느낌이기도 해요. 민정 씨가 서류 속 거짓말을 잡아낼 때 표정 본 적 있어요?

    Geureochyo. Ireun donigido hajiman, naega sseulmo inneun saramiraneun neukkimigido haeyo. Minjeong ssiga seoryu sok geojinmareul jabanael ttae pyojeong bon jeok isseoyo?

    Right. Work is money, but it's also the feeling that you're useful. Have you ever seen Minjeong's face when she catches a lie in a claim?

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    A 봤죠. 꼭 탐정 같아요. 그런 순간을 기계한테 뺏긴다고 생각하면 제일 씁쓸해요.

    Bwatjyo. Kkok tamjeong gatayo. Geureon sunganeul gigyehante ppaetgindago saenggakamyeon jeil sseupsseulhaeyo.

    Sure. She's like a detective. What really gets to me is the thought of a machine taking moments like that away.

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    B 그럼 그걸 제안서에 써 봅시다. '시스템이 걸러 낸 수상한 건은 반드시 사람이 최종 판단한다.' 그 기준은 민정 씨가 만들게 하고요.

    Geureom geugeol jeanseoe sseo bopsida. 'Siseutemi geolleo naen susanghan geoneun bandeusi sarami choejong pandanhanda.' Geu gijuneun Minjeong ssiga mandeulge hagoyo.

    Then let's put that in the proposal. "Any suspicious case the system flags gets its final decision from a person." And we have Minjeong set those criteria.

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    A 선배님 노하우를 기계한테 넘기는 게 아니라, 선배님을 기계 위에 두자는 거네요. 그건 제가 밤을 새워서라도 쓸 수 있어요.

    Seonbaenim nohaureul gigyehante neomgineun ge anira, seonbaenimeul gigye wie dujaneun geoneyo. Geugeon jega bameul saewoseorado sseul su isseoyo.

    So instead of handing her know-how over to the machine, we put her above the machine. That I can write, even if it takes all night.

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    B 밤새우는 건 안 돼요. 그것까지 효율로 따지면 우리가 기계랑 다를 게 뭐 있어요. 오늘은 퇴근합시다.

    Bamsaeuneun geon an dwaeyo. Geugeotkkaji hyoyullo ttajimyeon uriga gigyerang dareul ge mwo isseoyo. Oneureun toegeunhapsida.

    No all-nighters. If we start measuring even that by efficiency, how are we any different from the machine? Let's call it a day.

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    A 네. 근데 팀장님, 아까 반대편 얘기는 솔직히 설득력이 별로 없던데요.

    Ne. Geunde timjangnim, akka bandaepyeon yaegineun soljiki seoldeungnyeogi byeollo eopdeondeyo.

    Okay. But, Mr. Park, to be honest, your case for the other side earlier wasn't very convincing.

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    B 알아요. 저도 저를 설득 못 했거든요. 자, 불 끕니다. 가방 챙겨요.

    Arayo. Jeodo jeoreul seoldeuk mot haetgeodeunyo. Ja, bul kkeumnida. Gabang chaenggyeoyo.

    I know. I couldn't even convince myself. Right, lights off. Get your bag.

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