Day 51 of 135

Day 51: Contesting a Desk Rejection

At the office of a Korean history journal, Jung Woojin (A), a young researcher, asks the managing editor, Ms. Oh (B), why his paper was rejected without review.

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  1. Read the situation under the title. It says who is talking and how they know each other, which decides how politely they speak.
  2. Read the dialogue line by line with its translation, until every line makes sense. Still learning Hangul? Tick Romanization to see how each line sounds, but read the Korean first.
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Dialogue

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  1. A μ•ˆλ…•ν•˜μ„Έμš”, μ§€λ‚œλ‹¬μ— 논문을 νˆ¬κ³ ν•œ μ •μš°μ§„μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€. μ–΄μ œ 게재 λΆˆκ°€ 톡보λ₯Ό λ°›μ•˜λŠ”λ°, 이유λ₯Ό 직접 여쭀보고 μ‹Άμ–΄μ„œ μ™”μ–΄μš”.

    Annyeonghaseyo, jinandare nonmuneul tugohan Jeongujinimnida. Eoje gejae bulga tongboreul badanneunde, iyureul jikjeop yeojjwobogo sipeoseo wasseoyo.

    Hello, I'm Jung Woojin. I submitted a paper last month. I got a rejection notice yesterday, and I came to ask about the reason in person.

  2. B λ„€, μ •μš°μ§„ μ„ μƒλ‹˜. μ‘°μ„  ν›„κΈ° μž₯μ‹œμ— κ΄€ν•œ λ…Όλ¬Έ λ§μ”€μ΄μ‹œμ£ ? 이μͺ½μœΌλ‘œ μ•‰μœΌμ‹­μ‹œμ˜€.

    Ne, jeongujin seonsaengnim. Joseon hugi jangsie gwanhan nonmun malsseumisijyo? Ijjogeuro anjeusipsio.

    Yes, Mr. Jung. Your paper on market towns in the late Joseon period, is that right? Please, have a seat over here.

  3. A μ†”μ§νžˆ 납득이 μ•ˆ λ©λ‹ˆλ‹€. μ‹¬μ‚¬μœ„μ›ν•œν…Œ κ°€ 보지도 λͺ»ν•˜κ³  νŽΈμ§‘ λ‹¨κ³„μ—μ„œ λ–¨μ–΄μ‘Œλ‹€λŠ” 게 말이 λ˜λ‚˜μš”?

    Soljiki napdeugi an doemnida. Simsawiwonhante ga bojido motago pyeonjip dangyeeseo tteoreojyeotdaneun ge mari doenayo?

    Frankly, I can't accept it. How can it make sense that it was turned down at the editorial stage without even reaching the reviewers?

  4. B λ‹΅λ‹΅ν•˜μ‹  λ§ˆμŒμ€ μ΄ν•΄ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€. λ‹€λ§Œ 저희 ν•™νšŒμ§€λŠ” 투고 κ·œμ •μ„ μ§€ν‚€μ§€ μ•Šμ€ μ›κ³ λŠ” 심사에 λ„˜κΈ°μ§€ μ•ŠμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.

    Dapdapasin maeumeun ihaehamnida. Daman jeohui hakhoejineun tugo gyujeongeul jikiji aneun wongoneun simsae neomgiji anseumnida.

    I understand your frustration. However, our journal doesn't send manuscripts that break the submission rules out for review.

  5. A κ·œμ •μ΄μš”? λΆ„λŸ‰λ„ λ§žμ·„κ³  각주 ν˜•μ‹λ„ λ‹€ μ§€μΌ°λŠ”λ° 뭐가 λ¬Έμ œμ˜€λ‹€λŠ” κ±΄κ°€μš”?

    Gyujeongiyo? Bullyangdo matchwotgo gakju hyeongsikdo da jikyeonneunde mwoga munjeyeotdaneun geongayo?

    The rules? I kept to the length and followed the footnote format. So what exactly was the problem?

  6. B 원고 첫 μž₯ κ°μ‚¬μ˜ 글에 μ„ μƒλ‹˜ 성함과 μ†Œμ†, 지도 κ΅μˆ˜λ‹˜ μ„±ν•¨κΉŒμ§€ κ·ΈλŒ€λ‘œ λ“€μ–΄κ°€ μžˆμ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. 읡λͺ… 심사 원칙에 μ–΄κΈ‹λ‚©λ‹ˆλ‹€.

    Wongo cheot jang gamsaui geure seonsaengnim seonghamgwa sosok, jido gyosunim seonghamkkaji geudaero deureoga isseotseumnida. Ingmyeong simsa wonchige eogeunnamnida.

    The acknowledgments on your first page included your name, your affiliation and even your supervisor's name. That goes against the principle of anonymous review.

  7. A 그건 제 μ‹€μˆ˜μ˜€μ–΄μš”. κ·Έλž˜λ„ κ·Έ μ •λ„λŠ” μ§€μš°κ³  심사λ₯Ό μ§„ν–‰ν•΄ μ£Όμ‹€ μˆ˜λ„ μžˆμž–μ•„μš”.

    Geugeon je silsuyeosseoyo. Geuraedo geu jeongdoneun jiugo simsareul jinhaenghae jusil sudo itjanayo.

    That was my mistake. But you could have just deleted that part and gone ahead with the review.

  8. B κ·Έλ ‡κ²Œ ν•΄ λ“œλ¦¬λ©΄ λ‹€λ₯Έ νˆ¬κ³ μžλ“€κ³Ό ν˜•ν‰μ„±μ΄ λ§žμ§€ μ•ŠμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. κ΅­λ‚΄μ™Έλ₯Ό λ§‰λ‘ ν•˜κ³ , κ²½λ ₯이 λ§Žλ“  적든 기쀀은 κ°™μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.

    Geureoke hae deurimyeon dareun tugojadeulgwa hyeongpyeongseongi matji anseumnida. Gungnaeoereul mangnonhago, gyeongnyeogi manteun jeokdeun gijuneun gatseumnida.

    If we did that for you, it wouldn't be fair to the other authors. Whether they're in Korea or abroad, however much experience they have, the standard is the same.

  9. A 정말 κ·ΈλŸ΄κΉŒμš”? 유λͺ…ν•œ κ΅μˆ˜λ‹˜λ“€ 논문은 이름이 μ’€ 듀어가도 κ·Έλƒ₯ ν†΅κ³Όλœλ‹€λŠ” μ†Œλ¬Έμ΄ μžˆλ˜λ°μš”.

    Jeongmal geureolkkayo? Yumyeonghan gyosunimdeul nonmuneun ireumi jom deureogado geunyang tonggwadoendaneun somuni itdeondeyo.

    Is that really true? There's a rumour that papers by famous professors go through even if their names slip in.

  10. B 그런 μ†Œλ¬Έμ΄ μžˆλ‹€λŠ” 건 저도 μ••λ‹ˆλ‹€. ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ μž‘λ…„μ—λŠ” μ›λ‘œ κ΅μˆ˜λ‹˜μ˜ 원고도 같은 이유둜 λ°˜λ €λ˜μ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. μ§€μœ„κ³ ν•˜λ₯Ό λ§‰λ‘ ν•˜κ³  μ˜ˆμ™ΈλŠ” μ—†μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.

    Geureon somuni itdaneun geon jeodo amnida. Hajiman jangnyeoneneun wollo gyosunimui wongodo gateun iyuro ballyeodoeeotseumnida. Jiwigohareul mangnonhago yeoeneun eopseumnida.

    I'm aware of that rumour. But last year, a manuscript by a very senior professor was sent back for the same reason. No matter how high or low someone's position, there are no exceptions.

  11. A ...κ·Έλ ‡λ‹€λ©΄ 더 λ“œλ¦΄ 말씀이 μ—†λ„€μš”. κ·Έλž˜λ„ λͺ‡ 달을 맀달린 논문이라 속이 많이 μƒν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.

    ...Geureotamyeon deo deuril malsseumi eomneyo. Geuraedo myeot dareul maedallin nonmunira sogi mani sanghamnida.

    ...Then I have nothing more to say. Still, I spent months on that paper, so it really hurts.

  12. B κ·Έ 마음 잘 μ••λ‹ˆλ‹€. 그런데 사싀 μ„ μƒλ‹˜κ»˜ μ „ν•΄ λ“œλ¦΄ 것이 ν•˜λ‚˜ μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. νŽΈμ§‘μœ„μ›μž₯λ‹˜κ»˜μ„œ 직접 μ“°μ‹  λ©”λͺ¨μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.

    Geu maeum jal amnida. Geureonde sasil seonsaengnimkke jeonhae deuril geosi hana itseumnida. Pyeonjibwiwonjangnimkkeseo jikjeop sseusin memoimnida.

    I know how you feel. But actually, I have something to pass on to you. It's a note the editor-in-chief wrote himself.

  13. A μœ„μ›μž₯λ‹˜κ»˜μ„œμš”? 그뢄은 μ—°μ„Έκ°€ 여든이 λ„˜μœΌμ…¨λ‹€κ³  λ“€μ—ˆλŠ”λ°, 제 논문을 직접 μ½μœΌμ…¨λ‹€κ³ μš”?

    Wiwonjangnimkkeseoyo? Geubuneun yeonsega yeodeuni neomeusyeotdago deureonneunde, je nonmuneul jikjeop ilgeusyeotdagoyo?

    The editor-in-chief? I heard he's over eighty. He read my paper himself?

  14. B λ„€, λ°˜λ €λ˜λŠ” μ›κ³ κΉŒμ§€ ν•œ νŽΈλ„ 빠짐없이 직접 μ½μœΌμ‹­λ‹ˆλ‹€. 손글씨라 μ•Œμ•„λ³΄μ‹œκΈ° νž˜λ“œμ‹€ ν…Œλ‹ˆ μ œκ°€ 읽어 λ“œλ¦¬κ² μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.

    Ne, ballyeodoeneun wongokkaji han pyeondo ppajimeopsi jikjeop ilgeusimnida. Songeulssira arabosigi himdeusil teni jega ilgeo deurigetseumnida.

    Yes, he personally reads every manuscript, even the ones that are sent back. His handwriting is hard to read, so let me read it to you.

  15. A λ„€, λΆ€νƒλ“œλ¦½λ‹ˆλ‹€. 칭찬일 λ¦¬λŠ” 없을 ν…Œλ‹ˆ 마음의 μ€€λΉ„λ₯Ό ν•˜κ³  λ“£κ² μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.

    Ne, butakdeurimnida. Chingchanil rineun eopseul teni maeumui junbireul hago deutgetseumnida.

    Yes, please. I don't suppose it's praise, so I'll brace myself.

  16. B "μž₯μ‹œμ˜ 연결망을 μ§€λ„λ‘œ κ·Έλ € λ‚Έ μ‹œλ„κ°€ μ°Έμ‹ ν•˜λ„€. λ‹€λ§Œ μ‚¬λ£Œ 해석이 μ„±κΈ‰ν•œ 데가 μžˆμœΌλ‹ˆ 호적 자료λ₯Ό λ³΄κ°•ν•˜κ²Œ."

    "Jangsiui yeongyeolmangeul jidoro geuryeo naen sidoga chamsinhane. Daman saryo haeseogi seonggeupan dega isseuni hojeok jaryoreul boganghage."

    "Mapping the network of market towns is a fresh idea. But parts of your reading of the sources are hasty, so strengthen it with household register data."

  17. A μ°Έμ‹ ν•˜λ‹€κ³ μš”? μ €λŠ” λ‹Ήμ—°νžˆ ν˜Ήν‰μ΄ μ ν˜€ μžˆμ„ 쀄 μ•Œμ•˜μ–΄μš”.

    Chamsinhadagoyo? Jeoneun dangyeonhi hokpyeongi jeokyeo isseul jul arasseoyo.

    Fresh? I was sure it would be scathing criticism.

  18. B 아직 λλ‚˜μ§€ μ•Šμ•˜μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. "κ·œμ •μ„ μ–΄κΈ΄ 건 μžλ„€ 잘λͺ»μ΄λ‹ˆ 남을 νƒ“ν•˜μ§€ 말고, λ°˜λ…„ 뒀에 λ‹€μ‹œ λ‚΄ 보게. 기닀리겠넀."

    Ajik kkeunnaji anatseumnida. "Gyujeongeul eogin geon jane jalmosini nameul tataji malgo, bannyeon dwie dasi nae boge. Gidarigenne."

    It's not finished yet. "Breaking the rules was your own fault, so blame no one else. Submit it again in six months. I'll be waiting."

  19. A κΈ°λ‹€λ¦¬μ‹œκ² λ‹€κ³ μš”... 괜히 λ”°μ§€λŸ¬ μ™”λ‹€κ°€ λΆ€λ„λŸ¬μ›Œμ§€λ„€μš”.

    Gidarisigetdagoyo... gwaenhi ttajireo watdaga bukkeureowojineyo.

    He'll be waiting... I came here to argue, and now I just feel embarrassed.

  20. B λΆ€λ„λŸ¬μ›Œν•˜μ‹€ 일은 μ•„λ‹™λ‹ˆλ‹€. κ·œμ •μ€ μ§€ν‚€μ‹œκ³ , κ·Έ 열정은 원고에 μŸμœΌμ‹œλ©΄ λ©λ‹ˆλ‹€.

    Bukkeureowohasil ireun animnida. Gyujeongeun jikisigo, geu yeoljeongeun wongoe ssodeusimyeon doemnida.

    There's nothing to be embarrassed about. Just follow the rules, and put that passion into your manuscript.

  21. A λͺ…μ‹¬ν•˜κ² μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. 이 λ©”λͺ¨, 사진 ν•œ μž₯ 찍어 가도 λ κΉŒμš”? 연ꡬ싀 책상에 λΆ™μ—¬ λ‘λ €κ³ μš”.

    Myeongsimhagetseumnida. I memo, sajin han jang jjigeo gado doelkkayo? Yeongusil chaeksange buchyeo duryeogoyo.

    I'll keep that in mind. May I take a photo of this note? I want to stick it on my desk at the lab.

  22. B λ¬Όλ‘ μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€. λ‹€μŒ μ›κ³ λŠ” 읡λͺ… μ²˜λ¦¬κΉŒμ§€ 꼼꼼히 ν™•μΈν•˜μ…”μ„œ κΌ­ μ‹¬μ‚¬μœ„μ›λ“€ 손에 λ“€μ–΄κ°€κΈ°λ₯Ό λ°”λžλ‹ˆλ‹€.

    Mullonimnida. Daeum wongoneun ingmyeong cheorikkaji kkomkkomhi hwaginhasyeoseo kkok simsawiwondeul sone deureogagireul baramnida.

    Of course. Check the anonymisation carefully this time, and I hope your next manuscript makes it into the reviewers' hands.

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