Day 78: Arguing a School-Zone Speeding Fine

Dialogue

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   B 손님, 아까 통화하시는 거 들으니까 변호사님이시죠? 실례지만 하나만 여쭤봐도 될까요?

   Sonnim, akka tonghwahasineun geo deureunikka byeonhosanimisijyo? Sillyejiman hanaman yeojjwobwado doelkkayo?

   Excuse me, from your phone call earlier, you're a lawyer, aren't you? Sorry to bother you, but could I ask you something?

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   A 네, 변호사 맞아요. 무슨 일인데요?

   Ne, byeonhosa majayo. Museun irindeyo?

   Yes, I am. What's it about?

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   B 지난달에 어린이 보호구역 과태료 고지서가 날아왔거든요. 밤 열두 시 십 분에 삼십 킬로 구간을 사십이 킬로로 달렸대요.

   Jinandare eorini bohoguyeok gwataeryo gojiseoga narawatgeodeunyo. Bam yeoldu si sip bune samsip killo guganeul sasibi killoro dallyeotdaeyo.

   Last month I got a fine in the mail for a school zone. Apparently I was doing forty-two in a thirty zone at ten past midnight.

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   A 사십이 킬로면 많이 넘은 건 아니네요. 그래서 이의 신청을 하시려고요?

   Sasibi killomyeon mani neomeun geon anineyo. Geuraeseo iui sincheongeul hasiryeogoyo?

   Forty-two isn't a lot over. So you want to appeal?

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   B 네. 제가 따지고 싶은 건 이거예요. 밤 열두 시에 학교 앞에 애들이 어디 있어요? 밤 열두 시에도 삼십으로 가래서야 누가 지킵니까?

   Ne. Jega ttajigo sipeun geon igeoyeyo. Bam yeoldu sie hakgyo ape aedeuri eodi isseoyo? Bam yeoldu siedo samsibeuro garaeseoya nuga jikimnikka?

   Yes. Here's my point. At midnight, where are the kids outside a school? If they tell you to do thirty even at midnight, who's going to obey that?

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   A 좋아요. 그럼 제가 판사라고 생각하고 들어 볼게요. 표지판에 시간 제한이 따로 적혀 있었나요?

   Joayo. Geureom jega pansarago saenggakago deureo bolgeyo. Pyojipane sigan jehani ttaro jeokyeo isseonnayo?

   All right. Then I'll listen as if I were the judge. Did the sign show any time limits?

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   B 아니요, 그냥 삼십만 크게 적혀 있었죠.

   Aniyo, geunyang samsimman keuge jeokyeo isseotjyo.

   No, it just said thirty, in big numbers.

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   A 그럼 판사는 이렇게 말할 거예요. '법이 마음에 안 든다고 해서 안 지켜도 되는 건 아닙니다.'

   Geureom pansaneun ireoke malhal geoyeyo. 'Beobi maeume an deundago haeseo an jikyeodo doeneun geon animnida.'

   Then the judge will say this: 'Disliking a law doesn't mean you don't have to obey it.'

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   B 아니, 변호사님은 누구 편이세요? 저는 먹고살려고 밤새 운전하는 사람이에요. 그런 식이면 법은 다 탁상공론이죠.

   Ani, byeonhosanimeun nugu pyeoniseyo? Jeoneun meokgosallyeogo bamsae unjeonhaneun saramieyo. Geureon sigimyeon beobeun da taksanggongnonijyo.

   Hold on, whose side are you on? I'm a guy who drives all night to make a living. If that's how it works, the law's all armchair theory.

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    A 지금은 일부러 판사 편을 드는 거예요. 판사가 할 말을 미리 들어 봐야 기사님이 이길 수 있죠.

    Jigeumeun ilbureo pansa pyeoneul deuneun geoyeyo. Pansaga hal mareul miri deureo bwaya gisanimi igil su itjyo.

    Right now I'm taking the judge's side on purpose. You need to hear what the judge will say beforehand if you want to win.

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    B 흠, 그렇긴 하네요. 사실 이유가 하나 더 있어요. 그때 뒷자리에 열이 펄펄 끓는 아기를 안은 엄마가 타고 있었어요. 응급실로 가던 길이었고요.

    Heum, geureokin haneyo. Sasil iyuga hana deo isseoyo. Geuttae dwitjarie yeori peolpeol kkeulleun agireul aneun eommaga tago isseosseoyo. Eunggeupsillo gadeon girieotgoyo.

    Hm, fair enough. Actually, there's another reason. That night I had a mother in the back holding a baby burning up with fever. We were on our way to the ER.

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    A 그건 얘기가 완전히 다르죠. 정당한 사유가 될 수 있어요. 왜 그걸 먼저 말씀 안 하셨어요?

    Geugeon yaegiga wanjeonhi dareujyo. Jeongdanghan sayuga doel su isseoyo. Wae geugeol meonjeo malsseum an hasyeosseoyo?

    That changes everything. That could be a legitimate reason. Why didn't you say that first?

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    B 애 핑계 대는 것 같아서요. 게다가 그 병원은 그 학교 앞길 말고는 갈 길이 없어요. 피하려도 피할 데가 없었다니까요.

    Ae pinggye daeneun geot gataseoyo. Gedaga geu byeongwoneun geu hakgyo apgil malgoneun gal giri eopseoyo. Piharyeodo pihal dega eopseotdanikkayo.

    It felt like using the kid as an excuse. And the only road to that hospital runs past the school. I couldn't have avoided it if I'd tried.

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    A 법적으로는 그게 핵심이에요. 급한 사정이 있었다는 걸 입증할 수 있으면 과태료가 취소될 수도 있어요.

    Beopjeogeuroneun geuge haeksimieyo. Geupan sajeongi isseotdaneun geol ipjeunghal su isseumyeon gwataeryoga chwisodoel sudo isseoyo.

    Legally, that's the key point. If you can prove there was an emergency, the fine could be cancelled.

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    B 입증이요? 그 엄마 연락처도 모르는데 어떻게 증명해요?

    Ipjeungiyo? Geu eomma yeollakcheodo moreuneunde eotteoke jeungmyeonghaeyo?

    Prove it? I don't even have that mother's number. How am I supposed to prove it?

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    A 호출 앱으로 받은 손님이면 기록이 남아 있을 거예요. 출발지, 도착지, 시간까지요. 도착지가 응급실이면 그게 증거죠.

    Hochul aebeuro badeun sonnimimyeon girogi nama isseul geoyeyo. Chulbalji, dochakji, sigankkajiyo. Dochakjiga eunggeupsirimyeon geuge jeunggeojyo.

    If you got the fare through a ride app, there'll be a record. Pickup, drop-off, even the times. If the drop-off was an ER, that's your evidence.

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    B 아, 앱 호출이었어요! 도착지가 대학 병원 응급실로 찍혀 있을 거예요. 그럼 밤 열두 시 얘기는 빼는 게 나아요?

    A, aep hochurieosseoyo! Dochakjiga daehak byeongwon eunggeupsillo jjikyeo isseul geoyeyo. Geureom bam yeoldu si yaegineun ppaeneun ge naayo?

    Oh, it was an app booking! The drop-off will say university hospital ER. So should I leave out the midnight argument?

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    A 이의 신청서에서는 빼세요. 그 주장은 법적으로 타당성이 약해서, 판사를 설득하기보다는 괜히 기분만 상하게 할 수 있어요.

    Iui sincheongseoeseoneun ppaeseyo. Geu jujangeun beopjeogeuro tadangseongi yakaeseo, pansareul seoldeukagibodaneun gwaenhi gibunman sanghage hal su isseoyo.

    Leave it out of the appeal. It's weak legally, so it's more likely to annoy the judge than persuade them.

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    B 그래도 억울한 건 억울한 거예요. 애 하나 없는 한밤중까지 똑같이 단속하는 건 좀 부당하지 않아요?

    Geuraedo eogulhan geon eogulhan geoyeyo. Ae hana eomneun hanbamjungkkaji ttokgachi dansokaneun geon jom budanghaji anayo?

    Still, unfair is unfair. Isn't it a bit unjust to enforce it just the same in the middle of the night, when there isn't a single kid around?

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    A 그 말씀도 일리가 있어요. 실제로 요즘은 밤에 제한 속도를 올려 주는 보호구역도 생겼어요. 그건 법정이 아니라 구청에 건의할 일이죠.

    Geu malsseumdo illiga isseoyo. Siljero yojeumeun bame jehan sokdoreul ollyeo juneun bohoguyeokdo saenggyeosseoyo. Geugeon beopjeongi anira gucheonge geonuihal irijyo.

    You have a point there too. In fact, some school zones now raise the limit at night. But that's something to propose to the district office, not argue in court.

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    B 아, 싸울 데가 따로 있다는 거네요. 그럼 이의 신청은 응급실 기록으로 하고, 구청에는 민원을 넣겠습니다.

    A, ssaul dega ttaro itdaneun geoneyo. Geureom iui sincheongeun eunggeupsil girogeuro hago, gucheongeneun minwoneul neoketseumnida.

    Ah, so each fight has its own place. Then I'll appeal with the ER record and file a petition with the district office.

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    A 완벽하네요. 오늘 상담은 여기까지입니다. 원래 상담료가 꽤 비싼 거 아시죠?

    Wanbyeokaneyo. Oneul sangdameun yeogikkajiimnida. Wollae sangdamnyoga kkwae bissan geo asijyo?

    Perfect. That's the end of today's consultation. You know my fees are normally pretty steep, right?

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    B 하하, 알죠. 그럼 오늘 요금은 반만 받을게요. 나머지 반은 상담료로 치고요.

    Haha, aljyo. Geureom oneul yogeumeun banman badeulgeyo. Nameoji baneun sangdamnyoro chigoyo.

    Ha ha, I know. Then I'll only charge you half the fare tonight. Call the other half your fee.

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